What are your Lost Media holy grails?

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Post: # 11972Post Garrett Gilchrist »

I assume I used Spleeter for vocal separation there. I'd use MVSep now probably.

The Meek/Proposal scenes are restored by me, sourced from the endingless workprint with a little from John Smith. (The John Smith stuff has never been posted with interlacing, so was not the ideal source otherwise.)

It's hard to recall now, but the "Nice Boys" clip was not masked/dissolved/edited the way I would do it now as final.
At the time I was switching from editing on FCP7 on Mac to Adobe Premiere on PC, and I wasn't ready to do so yet.

The quality of what you can get out of EBSynth really depends on what you do in your other video and photo editing programs before and afterward, to match sources.

The most complex project I've done with EBSynth is this -- and it was incredibly complex.
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Post: # 11982Post Arnaud »

Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Fat Albert (1969 TV special)

I have no interest in the later series but this one looks intriguing and a different beast. The Paley center owns a copy but it'll probably never be largely available for obvious reasons that I of course can understand, but it's a shame for the team and the importance of that short in animation history as a whole.
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Putting aside the Bill Cosby of it, it is a very interesting short that should be available in a more public way.
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Post: # 12014Post Garrett Gilchrist »

Robert Gonzo Wicker writes:
So I rarely post here, but I am a big fan of lost media. I have 2 things I've been hunting for a few years now.
1. My aunt was on an episode of Oprah between 1988 and 1991. If I remember correctly, the episode was titled "My inlaw is trying to kill me". We recorded it on vhs and lost that tape 3 decades ago.
2. A creepy pasta story about a mechanical TV. 2 kids live with their aunt who has a mechanical TV that only gets 1 show called Mr Venus. Eventually, the tv opens up and Mr Venus flies away. One sibling goes insane and the other kills themselves.
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Post: # 12044Post COAGULOPATH »

There's a lot of media that isn't "lost" exactly, but only exists in deplorably mangled form.

For one, an extremely obscure and offensive Australian animated film called "Go to Hell!!" Created in 1995-1997 by Ray Nowland, it remains one of the only feature-length animated films to be completed by a single man.

I wrote about the content of the film here. It's "Ralph Bakshi does the Bible"—a half-sarcastic, half-sincere reverie on religion, faith, and humanity. It's flawed but quite interesting. Right now, all that exists of it is a 240p Youtube video, heavily damaged by repeated encoding. Someone else tried upscaling it with early-gen Topaz or something, with craptastic results.

It would be nice to have a proper version of this film. The company that produced it—Energee—was liquidated decades ago. Who knows what happened to their masters. Ray Nowland probably has a copy, but there's no trace of him online. I can't even verify that he's still alive.

Also, if you like anime, the list of lost media is about to substantially increase.
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As noted ... Come end of Oct, Tokyo Lab, one of the largest holders of film material in Japan, will be discarding all film left unclaimed by rights holders. However, the Warner Bros shows were apparently claimed by Warners "long ago."


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ToughPigs' current want list for Muppet/Miss Piggy clips. See Muppet Wiki for more specific details.

Dinah! Dinah Shore May 16, 1977 (A partial clip is circulating and was restored by me)

The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson w/Jim Henson (5/24/74) Miss Piggy clip only (this is omitted from current repeats)

NBC Today Show -- August 8 1977/ September 8 1977/ April 16 1996/ October 17 1997/ November 9 1998

Parkinson (November 18, 1978) — BBC Archive has posted most of this on Facebook/Twitter

The Mike Douglas Show (September 11, 1979)

The Don Lane Show (October 26, 1981)

Good Morning America (December 24, 1982 / February 13, 1987 / February 13, 1988)

Gala of Stars PBS (March 30, 1983)

Entertainment Tonight (May 29, 1984)

Wogan (December 6, 1985 / October 30, 1987)

Life: 50 Years (November 15, 1986)

The Disney Christmas Special (ITV December 25, 1989)

Terry Wogan's Friday Night (December 18, 1992)

Bruce's Guest Night (Bruce Forsyth, May 17, 1993)

Rosie O'Donnell Show (June 14, 1996)

The Tonight Show with Jay Leno (June 21, 1996 / December 11, 1998)

The View (November 6, 1998 / July 1999)

Live with Regis and Kelly (November 26, 2002 / November 29, 2002)

Other Muppet wants:
The unaired pilot version of the Juliet Prowse episode of The Muppet Show (Paley)

Kagayake! Gorō Mapetto Geba Geba 90-pun! (1976) 輝け!五郎・マペット ゲバゲバ90分!

Jim Henson's 1965 Cinderella pilot, which was found in 2013 and viewable at the Paley Center.

original Zoot endings for: Muppet Show with Kaye Ballard, Loretta Lynn, Harry Belafonte, Juliet Prowse, Dudley Moore, Mac Davis, Roger Miller.

Also Muppet Show series 4/5 endings, generally / generically (Chris Langham episode also, as that's been pulled from Disney+ for obvious reasons, and circulates in VHS quality)

It's also not uncommon for Muppet Show episodes to have episode promos at the end of the master tapes.
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More requests:

Neil Innes on the Wide Awake Club.

Young Lust: A Soap Opera (unreleased Gary Weis feature)

"British film from 1969 Called Wedding night (AKA I Can't, I Can't)- Filmed in Ireland - Directed by Piers Haggard (Blood on Satan's Claw - AKA Satan's Skin) -Starring Dennis Waterman and Alexandre Bastido (The Champions) - Last heard of at the Irish Film Institute - I believe copies have circulated in the US - The British Film Institute have a copy - but it's a mute print - Here's a couple of trailers that have been uploaded to You Tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOKkuG_1piI "

Running Scared (1972)

"the private right" 1966
http://www.michaelpapas.com/the-private-right.html
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Post: # 12297Post Garrett Gilchrist »

How about the ABC run of "9 to 5" (1982-83), a fairly bad sitcom based on the movie?

Or the 1969 special of Fat Albert (preceding the TV series, and very different) ...

Or ... Muppet related and circulating elsewhere ... "Julie On Sesame Street" (Julie Andrews), Julie: My Favorite Things, Julie Andrews Hour

The Cher Show 1975 ...

Dinah! Dinah Shore May 16, 1977

Ed Sullivan April 12, 1970

Or Out to Lunch [ABC] December 10, 1974, Sesame Street special ....

Or Laugh Trax [1982-83] ... fairly bad sydicated sketch comedy with Frank Welker, Howie Mandel ... pilot was called Rock Comedy ...

Or Assaulted Nuts season 2 (1984-85) on Cinemax ....

Looking for the ending to the Dudley Moore Muppet Show episode (not rerun), and the US version of Roger Miller (Muppet Show). And any promos for such episodes.

And Muppets on Mike Douglas:
https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/The_Mike_Douglas_Show

Wishlist to find a better copy of a 1981 episode of PM Magazine Detroit, about The Evil Dead and Sam Raimi, something like Horror for Fun and Profit.
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Post: # 12306Post OldBenKenobi »

It does bother me when people complain about "lost" media that's actually just not available on current streaming, but at the same rate, I can sympathise. I'm English, so when Dragon Ball showed here, I saw a different version from the Yanks, and unfortunately, that particular version has never had a video release—and while torrents exist of pretty much all of it now, most of the original series (which was always the best, really) is badly mangled by shitty capturing, a few chunks of Z are in pretty poor nick, and a few episodes of GT are in rough shape too (which should by all rights be no great loss, but personally I find that particular English dub of GT rather more enjoyable than the Japanese and American versions).

And yet, do I call this "Lost media"? It feels dishonest, when the master tapes most assuredly still sit in the archives of the Canadian production company, there are probably broadcast copies lying around in storage across Europe and Canada, and there was even some talk of a DVD release many moons ago (ultimately shelved due to cost).
At the same time—I just wanna watch my cartoons, man. Preferably without my ears bleeding! :goblet:

Hrm. Bit of a ramble.

On a more on-topic note, how about the lost epilogue to 1931's Dracula? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_hhOAdQDkY&t=7m53s
We know a fragmentary version of it exist (see the clip), but for some reason, Universal has never seen fit to release the entire surviving section for quality and cost reasons, and a complete copy has never turned up... Mind you, I think with the technology of today, combined with the services of a decent mimic, you could create a pretty good approximation of it.

Apparently the clips seen in that doc come from a reel owned by the BFI. The clips appear to be from a videotape transfer, and anecdotally it's horribly fragmentary, skipping/cutting/splicing every couple of seconds, and the sound is allegedly rather mangled... We're only a couple of years off the film falling into the public domain, so perhaps when the time comes, the BFI will put out some sort of restoration.

A man can dream... (After all, the Spanish version was considered lost for many years, and that turned up. Bloody good, too! If it wasn't for Bela Lugosi's powerhouse performance in the English version I'd have no reservations in calling the Spanish version a better movie. It's staged, shot, and edited a lot more interestingly.)
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