The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

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Post: # 11878Post GrandeurWazir »

Garrett Gilchrist wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:10 am No. I don't know what that is, but if it's an alternate take on a scene which is finished in color elsewhere, the color version gets used.
I didn't specify what shot it was supposed to be, In the workprint there's this storyboard of Zigzag talking to Might One Eye before they attack and its right here in the workprint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_aHoRGr8KQ&t=4275s, The pencil test I shared is the storyboard of Zigzag animated but not colored in.
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BrightestDayFan2814 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:39 pm I wish Miramax/Paramount should release the original 80 minute version of Arabian Knight (The Thief and The Cobbler: Calvert Cut), meaning it will be re-rated PG.
I do believe that there 8 minutes of footage of the master negative of The Princess and the Cobbler was still in the vault, Miramax/Paramount should put 8 minutes of footage back together.
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I know you said that you don't think it matters who's credited as Mighty One Eye since it was never confirmed but I think that since you might have to change the credits a bit Richard does confirm who One Eye is and he says it right here whenever he screened a Moment in time in 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al7OPJ8VF8s&t=195s
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Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

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I changed the credits a year ago.
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Post: # 11885Post Max Scully »

You had recently changed the name of the youtube channel that you upload Richard Williams content to, previously known as "TheThiefArchive", to "The Thief and the Cobbler Archive Official". Excuse my inquiry, but would it not be more fitting to name it something along the lines of "The Richard Williams Archive"? After all, the channel is not solely Thief content.
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Post: # 11886Post Garrett Gilchrist »

It was always called The Thief Archive (Thief and the Cobbler Archive Official). I didn't originally create the channel myself.

But I think a channel called Richard Williams Official would have looked very different, especially when Richard was alive, and would not have been run by me. It might have focused on his later work and The Animator's Survival Kit Animated. Indeed when Richard was alive his social media had that focus.

The Recobbled Cut is the chief project of that channel and the reason why people were there, with other projects following a similar pattern of research into Richard's work from the 60s-90s. Richard did not discuss The Thief publicly for about twenty years, but discussed it at several screenings before his passing.
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I am currently reworking the HD material in the film. For a screening in Seattle on the 30th of March I had edited all the revised HD material into the film, but after doing that I went back to my source edit on the Mac and exported the material again for a new edit. This time I undid a slight zoom which had been applied to the material, so that I could experiment with combining different exports of the same material.

On the Mac, conversions from one format to another resulted in the material looking darker on PC, with crushed blacks, and other color space and gamma changes. For this conversion to PC, I've exported the material two different ways - one resulting in a brighter image, and one with a darker image. I've split the difference between the two, or selected one that's appropriate for the scene, and/or mixed both with other edits of the scene.

I've also gone back to the MKV source files for two reels marked "Action Dupe" and "WB Selection." These are mixed in with (a brightened version of) the existing color-corrected edit, toning down the color correction or bringing the original colors back. Generally these are the best-looking HD reels we have, as the "KA Reels" were usually too dark. The look of this material will be quite different than previously seen.

While I did a lot of frame by frame restoration on the HD "KA Reels," these other two reels went largely untouched for the Mk4. In some cases I've now redone restoration which was done on these scenes previously. I am doing some further splice and dirt removal in Photoshop (and PFClean) on some of these scenes. This feels like I'm endlessly revisiting old material, which is a little frustrating.

New technology like EBSynth and Rife is occasionally used to recreate lost and damaged frames. (Zigzag's entrance to the city is missing one frame on his profile shot, which is recreated using EBSynth and Photoshop. A small number of blurred frames are partly recreated with Rife.)

For some shots and damaged sections, dirt removal is handled in Photoshop on a frame by frame basis. This is a slow process.

Removing splices has been routine for any shot sourced from film or the U-Matic workprint. These sources were physically spliced together with adhesive tape, and when played back they "jump" on the edit for a few frames. On the cut, a black splice line appears along with other dirt and damage. Two frames later, the image jumps upward with a blur and distortion for two frames. At the end of the shot, there is another splice, and the image moves horizontally for about three frames, with some distortion and sometimes blurring. Over the years I've corrected this in Photoshop on many shots, and it's always a slow and careful process. The "jump" frames are often too blurred to be useable and are corrected using material from adjacent frames.

I am also upscaling some shots from the cropped 4x3 DVDs overnight to be used to rebuild some shots in HD, time permitting. I selected shots where all or most of the action takes place within the cropped center of the frame. This can be mesh warped to match the Japanese source, and the background can be color-matched in Photoshop. This is a pain to do, and the cropped sources have issues of their own. Their colors are very different from the other sources. The Miramax source is oversaturated and has dot crawl and frame rate issues, as well as DNR and interlacing errors. The Princess source is undersaturated and has obvious ghosting artifacts.

I started work editing the standard definition material into the film, but have not finished.

I've paused my work on the new animation while I'm trying to put this edit together.

These are both more important than the HD work, but being put aside for the moment.
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Some shots of the One Eyes logo during the war machine destruction scene are yellow, do you think there's a way to make them red?
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it doesn't matter.
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Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

Post: # 11896Post Garrett Gilchrist »

Old Midi used in the Recobbled Cut

Can anyone do anything with this?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wHfXsH ... share_link

There has been an unfortunate lack of interest from the community this time round, considering what's being done.

It went from changing a few shots to overhauling the entire thing.

Oh well.

https://twitter.com/TygerbugGarrett/sta ... 2834857985

Genuinely thought I could edit the film within a day or two but it's taking a month, and involving some additional restoration. Most shots have to be replaced, and my reels of new shots are in no particular order.
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