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Post: # 10841Post Garrett Gilchrist
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:19 pm

One thing that's always been true somehow is that reviewers tend to not realize the effort put into animation when it's new. Reviewers will praise the craft that went into the cartoons of their youth, but see anything new as disposable. They don't know what they're looking at.

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Post: # 10844Post Garrett Gilchrist
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:37 pm

@Defunctland episode on Tales of the Okefenokee (later changed to "Monster Plantation") the proto-Splash Mountain from Six Flags Georgia, which only stopped flying the Confederate flag in 2017.

https://youtu.be/rghHLkqVE0A

Also, Song of the South is a racist minstrel show of a movie, and Disney in the 80s ABSOLUTELY knew that but did the ride anyway.

SotS is not particularly hard to find, at archive org and elsewhere. But unfortunately it reinforces common tropes from blackface minstrel shows.

In those shows, white people portrayed negative stereotypes of black people who claimed that the South was somehow better in the past (when black people were enslaved).

This nostalgia for the "old South" was entirely created by racist white people, and is most of the basis for this film, as well as the American Confederacy worship that still continues today somehow. Gross. Leave it in the past.

These days people think they've seen Song of the South when they haven't (or haven't seen it since early childhood). They basically saw a highlight reel. The live-action stuff is pretty dull, and very white, for lack of a better word.

Jon Weiner writes:
A nauseating movie.

Disney characters are the only remaining minstrel-styled cartoons still in use, aren't they? (Mickey & assoc., Goofy)

I don't see felix the cat getting much play. (Is he?)
Cuphead came under a lot of controversy for this for a lot of reasons. (Many racist WB cartoons used dice/the devil.) Technically Sonic the Hedgehog was also based on Felix the Cat and Donald Duck originally, though he's far removed from those inspirations in the end.

It's complicated because later creators were inspired by 30s/40s cartoons much more innocently, and were watching versions of, say, WB content that cut out the most offensive stuff. (The first Looney Tune, Sinkin in the Bathtub, has been censored almost since its release.)

I am, myself, a restorationist of old film and video, and it's always hard to decide what to do with this stuff, except to say that old media gets forgotten and pushed down the memory hole all the time because people don't care anymore, and sometimes we should do that on purpose.

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Re: Animation Thread

Post: # 10846Post Garrett Gilchrist
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:23 pm

Family Guy to recast Cleveland, a black character played by a white actor for twenty years.

The Simpsons reportedly will do the same with its characters, played by white actors for thirty years.

In other news, Family Guy and The Simpsons are still on the air?


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Re: Animation Thread

Post: # 10861Post Garrett Gilchrist
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:22 pm

Do people not know about Constable Frozen?
https://constable-frozen.tumblr.com/



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