Garrett Gilchrist wrote:Yes, that's a Calvert era drawing.
Redsam, it is not possible to retrace over low quality VHS footage and get anywhere near Richard Williams quality animation. No one should embarrass themselves by attempting this. It would look like garbage.
Many of Calvert's scenes were inked from the original Richard Williams pencil drawings, on a feature film budget, and still looked like a step down.
Dennis196492 wrote:It would be helpful for newer members to read the thread viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3&start=1610#p8794
As for tracing the pencil tests, Garrett might have just said ''You can't do it'', but it's true, elaborating over it is pointless because if you didn't notice, the fan trace of the scene is wonky, wobbly, the lines are way too thick and it just looks bad
The Thief and the Cobbler Workprint as we have now (and what the author of the video used) is a Bootleg VHS copy, the pencil tests are nowhere near sharp/clear enough to make such a thing possible even when Garrett restored them for the Reccobled Cut, the only reason people have that impression is because the pencil tests in themselves are very clean and beautiful, but once you pause and zoom in it's a blurry mess you can't tell the lines.
I've done a test in the past to confirm my theory, unlike most attempts I went an extra mile for that specific frame and drew it in 4K resolution, very thin lines just like in the movie, I used colors from official cels and even painted a little background, I put it through a video editing software, put film grain on it, blurred it a little and shrunk to 1080p and that is still NOWHERE near how the movie looks because number one: it wasn't filmed digitally, it was filmed on actual film stock and cels, and Number two, even if you have it all gathered, you just can't replicate John Leatherbarrow's cinematography on a computer, it's something that uses film techniques long forgotten.
Garrett Gilchrist wrote:It is absurd to think that you could get Williams-level animation - or even any kind of acceptable animation - from tracing over a blurry VHS. It is impossible and your "example" proves the point.
I REALLY LIKE IT! Grad to use Scheherazade rather than the music from the Miramax Version.
Glad you cropped it to scope. I would've zoomed in some certain things to make the cropping look a bit more proper.
The hands may need to be animated. (Just me)
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