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Re: Doctor Who: Reference Time

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:26 pm

tygerbug wrote:Last batch of images of Jean Marsh in "The Saint" - The Scales of Justice - 1 December 1968 (Season 6, Episode 10).


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Re: Doctor Who: Reference Time

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:26 pm

tygerbug wrote:"The Saint" - The Good Medicine - 6 February 1964 (Season 2, Episode 21)

This was Jean Marsh's first appearance on The Saint, a year before appearing on Doctor Who.

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Jean Marsh plays Maria, who is trying to get some money for her brother out of his ex-wife, the wealthy, shallow and selfish Denise Dumont, while Simon Templar (Roger Moore) seduces and swindles Ms. Dumont ...

Denise Dumont (Barbara Murray) heads one of the most successful beauty product firms in France and is a very rich woman. However, she has achieved this by stealing the ideas of her ex-husband, Philippe, whom she exploited, taking the credit for herself. He is now broken and ill.

Simon and Maria teach Ms. Dumont a lesson ...

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Re: Doctor Who: Reference Time

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:26 pm

tygerbug wrote:More of Jean Marsh in "The Saint" - The Good Medicine - 6 February 1964 (Season 2, Episode 21)

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Re: Doctor Who: Reference Time

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:27 pm

tygerbug wrote:"The Saint" - The Imprudent Politician  -  10 December 1964 (Season 3, Episode 10)

Jean Marsh plays the long-suffering wife of Michael Gough, who is a politician and a nasty drunk.

Michael Gough is in full-on villain mode here, being extremely rude to people with liquor on his breath that you can smell for miles away.

Therefore he suits our purposes perfectly, and I've gathered plenty of reference here.

Michael Gough, of course, being another great British actor who we ought to be collecting reference of.

He appeared in the 80s story Arc of Infinity, but for our purposes we're noting that he of course played The Celestial Toymaker, in the William Hartnell/Steven/Dodo story which is missing three of its 4 episodes.

The Celestial Toymaker is one of the worst of the missing stories, intended [like most of Dodo's stories] to be a more light-hearted romp after the darkness of The Myth Makers/The Daleks' Master Plan/The Massacre.

Michael Gough is great in it, though, and this will provide you with great reference for how Michael Gough looked around this time, when playing a villain.


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Re: Doctor Who: Reference Time

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:27 pm

tygerbug wrote:More of Jean Marsh and Michael Gough in "The Saint" - The Imprudent Politician  -  10 December 1964 (Season 3, Episode 10)

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Re: Doctor Who: Reference Time

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:27 pm

tygerbug wrote:"The Saint" - Escape Route - 30 December 1966 (Season 5, Episode 14)

This was a bit less than a year after Jean Marsh appeared in The Daleks' Master Plan. She plays a villain named Amy in this episode, which also features an amusing Donald Sutherland. She is one of several criminals operating a scheme that lets robbers out of prison and out of the country in exchange for some of what they have stolen - and eventually their lives.

Wanda Ventham has a large role in this episode, as a singer named Penny who asks Roger Moore's Simon Templar to bring down this syndicate, who killed her innocent father.

Three months later, Wanda Ventham would play Jean Rock in The Faceless Ones, which is mostly missing. Always a familiar face on television, she also appeared in the later Who episodes Image of the Fendahl and (unfortunately) Time and the Rani. Monty Python fans might know her from her handful of appearances on Eric Idle's Rutland Weekend Television, particularly in the episode Rain in Hendon.

Although Jean Rock is exceedingly well represented in the Faceless Ones telesnaps (and is in the existing episodes), I thought I'd include a lot of reference for Wanda Ventham in these files .... partly because she is more prominent in this episode than Jean Marsh.

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Pauline Collins (Samantha Briggs from The Faceless Ones) also appeared in "The Saint" - The Better Mousetrap - 25 November 1966 (Season 5, Episode 9) ... However, the part was small - as a hotel cleaning woman - and if she got a closeup I missed it.

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Re: Doctor Who: Reference Time

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:28 pm

It can be hard to tell from photos what color eyes a person has. We rarely get good enough quality. However, looking at enough photos of one actor in a row, I can be fairly certain of most of this information.



With the possible exception of William Hartnell, every Doctor before David Tennant has had blue eyes. (I think Matt Smith's eyes are blue or hazel.)

Ian Chesterton has blue eyes.

Polly has brown eyes.

Zoe has dark blue eyes.

Jamie has brown eyes.

Victoria has blue eyes.

Susan's eyes appear to be a sort of dark grey, with a greenish tint. Hazel, I suppose.

Barbara has brown eyes.

Sara Kingdom has blue eyes. Possibly greenish.

I believe Ben has blue eyes.

I think Steven has brown eyes.


Frazer Hines has referred to his Macra Terror costume as being orange.

In the Wheel in Space, Zoe wears a red and cream colored jumpsuit.

In Galaxy 4, it's been said the Drahvins wore green outfits, and the chumblies were a pale yellow, and resembled mushrooms.

Production notes for the Macra Terror indicate that the Macra itself was intended to be eight foot long by four foot high.

There is one colour photo of Mavic Chen, which never really shows up anywhere. Apparently his skin was sort of golden brown, and his hair was pure white. Only slightly outside the range of a realistic human skin colour; it was clearly meant to be a sort of amalgamation of races. It also features Trantis, Celation (yellow with brown spots, like a Balletic Space Banana) and the Time Destructor (bright red). Both Chen and Trantis' costumes are blue.

Patrick Troughton wears baggy brown plaid trousers in Power of the Daleks and The Highlanders. He wears a light blue shirt, and red suspenders, which have a green clover and either white or light yellow symbols such as bananas, a flower, a diamond. He wears the same suspenders throughout his run - they're very visible in The Wheel in Space in series 6, for example. His bowtie is blue.

Troughton soon switches to a black and white pair of trousers with a houndstooth pattern. In his last stories, there is a tear on the knee. He wears either a white or light blue shirt in all his stories.

William Hartnell changes trousers between The Chase and The Time Meddler - so both he and Troughton change their trousers between stories that are supposed to follow on from one another.

Hartnell appears to have one pair of trousers from the pilot to The Chase (presumably more than one physical pair as the robot in The Chase has an identical pair of trousers for instance). Presumably they get rather worn and they change to a different pair until his last appearance. The first pair have a very different style, lighter with a dark and a lighter check pattern. Very bad description but easy to compare to the Time Meddler pair.

According to Anneke Wills, Patrick Troughton often wore red socks during his time on the program, though whether he wore them as the Doctor, who knows ...

Certain publicity shots for Fury from the Deep show The Doctor's tie as being blue with red spots. Elsewhere, as in The Three/Five/Two Doctors, it is blue with white spots. His handkerchief is red and white paisley, in The Invasion and elsewhere. The Three Doctors photoshoot used a green and red handkerchief. The Five Doctors used a less interesting red polka dot handkerchief.

The Doctor's ring is clearly gold with a blue stone in The Celestial Toymaker, the first scene of Power of the Daleks, and other stories.

Patrick Troughton can be seen wearing very different looking dark red floral suspenders in a photo that is probably from The Three Doctors (judging only from the appearance of his lip).

Adrienne Hill's death scene as Katarina was gone on a trampoline with the camera below her, jumping up and down.

A photo from The Enemy of the World shows a grey-blue helicopter with a man in a light yellow uniform inside. The hovercraft is white and a tan orange, and piloted by a man in red.

Jamie wore a yellow/tan vest, a khaki/grey shirt, and a red kilt in Fury from the Deep, along with black socks, and black boots with fuzzy grey trim. His life preserver in episode 1 was red/orange, as was Troughton's. Watling's was yellow, and she wore grey or light tan sandals. Her hair was tied with a black bow. Troughton's hat was a light blue, with a blue and yellow pom.

Not a missing episode, but photos from The Mind Robber show Jamie with a red kilt, and khaki/tan/yellow vest. His kilt was also red in The War Games. In The Invasion, his outfit seems identical to Fury From the Deep. His vest was also khaki/tan/yellow, worn over a grey or slightly khaki shirt. Zoe wore a red skirt in The Invasion, a light green boa, and what looks like transparent red tights, with white boots [some photos show her in brown/grey flats]. Her Dulcian costume in The Dominators was clearly red. Her costume in The Krotons was black and red PVC. Jamie's kerchief in The Dominators is very red, with perhaps yellow highlights.

In Fury From the Deep, Wheel in Space, etc., Jamie wears a grid-patterned kerchief with the occasional lighter square. Each square has what we might call a six-pointed, center-less asterix on it. He has an unusual sunlike seal on the breast of his vest - a circle with sunrays on the outside, and inside, what looks like a cross made out of tennis rackets.

In one photo, Jamie seems to be wearing a yellow/khaki vest over a red shirt, though this is probably just lighting on his usual khaki/grey shirt. Captions on this photo always say The Mind Robber.

Maureen O'Brien has spoken about wearing "Navy blue boots."

The colonists in Power of the Daleks wore khaki scrubs. Whether this color extends to Ben and Polly and the main guest cast, I'm not sure.

Jean Marsh has referred to Sara Kingdom's costume as brown.

Patrick Troughton has a mole on his cheek, and a dark tooth in the center of his lower jaw.
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Re: Doctor Who: Reference Time

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:28 pm

Jean Marsh and Victor Maddern in "The Saint" - The Scales of Justice - 1 December 1968 (Season 6, Episode 10).

The episode stars Jean Marsh (Sara Kingdom) but also features, in a small role, Victor Maddern, who played Robson in Fury From the Deep, the man who becomes possessed by the weed creature and kidnaps Victoria in a helicopter.

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It's worth tracking down good reference of Victor Maddern because Fury From the Deep only exists as poor quality telesnaps. Sadly his role in this episode is a small one. However, he is the same age here as in his Doctor Who role.
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Re: Doctor Who: Reference Time

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:29 pm

tygerbug wrote:Victor Maddern also appeared in "The Saint" - The Fast Women - 13 January 1967 (Season 5, Episode 16). He is somewhat top-billed, but the role is still a fairly small one. Maddern uses an Italian accent throughout. Kate O'Mara plays a sexy Italian race car driver and John Hollis plays a magician and assassin.

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