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Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:03 pm
by Garrett Gilchrist
They leaked, yes.

Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:48 am
by Garrett Gilchrist
The official Smurfs Youtube channel is better than you'd expect, including The Smurfs and the Magic Flute feature in full HD, and episodes of "Johan and Peewit" from the Smurfs TV show, although these TV episodes are cropped unpleasantly to 16x9 (and upscaled from blurry SD).

Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:05 pm
by Garrett Gilchrist
I haven't followed the last, let's say, five seasons of My Little Pony, or much of the Equestria Girls series, but with Friendship is Magic ending the cartoon's creators are semi-officially confirming some LGBT representation.

Blink and you'll miss it, but background characters Lyra and Bon Bon proposed to one another and got married in the finale. The show confirmed them as a couple as far back as season 5 episode 9, at the latest, but you usually have to be freeze-framing and paying attention to notice them at all.

5.9 was the hundredth episode and was devoted to fan-favorite background characters, including an extended Doctor Who parody. It was basically fanservice. Lyra and Bon Bon were named by fans, and are called Heartstrings and Sweetie Drops in merchandise (but clearly named Lyra and Bon Bon onscreen in the finale). ... 2060028928

Rainbow Dash and Applejack - both voiced by Hey Ocean! singer Ashleigh Ball, and the butchest of the main characters - may or may not be married in the finale as well. They have a strong friendship and seem to be living together.

Season 9 episode 12 introduced young Scootaloo's Aunt Holiday and Auntie Lofty, a married (?) lesbian couple.

Here's one that's a little more surprising. Sunset Shimmer is bisexual, according to K. Hadley, a director for the Equestria Girls series in an offhand comment on Twitter. Hadley added that "We thought it was pretty obvious."

Sunset Shimmer is a unicorn who became human by stepping through a magic mirror into the Equestria Girls series (which features human versions of the My Little Pony characters). She is at first a villain, who is later reformed into an extra main character. As her name shows, she is a rival (and predecessor) to Twilight Sparkle, much like Starlight Glimmer (also a reformed villain).

Sunset Shimmer does not appear in the My Little Pony series, however, and Starlight Glimmer does. Shimmer is pretty much an Equestria Girls only character, although she was sold as a toy in the pony line. ... 5286714368

Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:25 am
by Garrett Gilchrist
Ducktales 2017 2.16: The Duck Knight Returns! - A brilliantly-written and unusual return for Darkwing Duck, that defies expectations and doesn't go the obvious route. Edgar Wright plays Alistair Boorswan, a film director who is nearly done filming a grim and gritty reboot of Darkwing Duck for the big screen. The parody of Christopher Nolan and Zack Snyder's overly-dark Batman films is very funny.

Jim Starling, played by original Darkwing actor Jim Cummings, had played Darkwing on television previously, and is shocked that the character is being rebooted without him. (We've seen this TV series in several episodes already.)

Launchpad McQuack helps Jim Starling get to the set to take over the film, while Scrooge McDuck, who hasn't watched a film since 1938, puts Dewey in charge of the finale instead. It's a crash course for disaster, and it falls on Launchpad to define for us all who Darkwing Duck really is, or should be.

The show sneakily adds to Darkwing Duck canon with merchandise from the "show." There's a villain called Hot Couture and the unproduced toy, the Quack Copter. There's even a flashback sequence drawn (but not animated) in the original 90s art style.

Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:58 am
by Garrett Gilchrist

Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:43 am
by Garrett Gilchrist
I've enjoyed season 2 of Ducktales (2017) a lot. It's full of great characters and storylines and has brought new life to characters both familiar and new. It also has one of the best casts on television, and I don't just mean the celebrity names.

A major strength of the show is that the youngsters Huey, Dewey, Louie, and Webby are all funny, well-thought-out characters who basically take the leading roles, Gravity Falls style. They have very clear personalities, written as a bit older than their years, and hopefully kids like them.

Della Duck, mother of Huey, Dewey and Louie, becomes a regular this season after being stranded on the moon for ten years. The formerly-tragic character is revealed to be just as childish as her boys, as she struggles to be more responsible and adapt to her role as mother.

Launchpad McQuack is so foolish on this show that it was amusing to see Della take on a sort of Frank Grimes role to his Homer Simpson, if only for one episode. She's horrified by how Launchpad has treated "her" airplane, and is stunned that he's survived crashing it so many times. But this is also basically Launchpad's superpower, and she comes to respect him for it.

Many of the characters are much more comedic in this show. The writers clearly have a love for Flintheart Glomgold, who wants to be Scrooge's rival, but is an imbecile, trying one bizarre scheme after another. In "Glomtales," he brings together a "family" of other villains including The Beagle Boys, Magica De Spell, Mark Beaks and Don Karnage, and still loses (or is tricked out of winning anyway). And yes, there is a "Glomtales" parody of the opening theme.

An expert on the Disney ducks said to me that he's avoided watching this show, feeling it's less "grounded" than the Carl Barks comics. I don't think the Barks comics were "grounded" either, but the series definitely knows that Scrooge and company have gone on many strange and supernatural adventures, and has simply leaned into that. Strange things are always occurring. Scrooge and Goldie are several centuries old, and so are some of their friends and foes.

There is a LOT going on in this series, and that's both its strength and a minor weakness. The series has tried to involve characters who didn't appear in Ducktales the first time round - both new characters and fan favorites from other series and comics. It has a huge cast and is becoming a "Disney Afternoon" in one show. There are so many characters and subplots that even after two seasons the show has barely scratched the surface of most of them, and is still adding more ideas at a rapid rate.

In the two-part season finale, Moonvasion!, I counted well over a dozen subplots that could have been episodes on their own. So here's a list of some of those subplots.

- Moon invaders have knocked the Earth out of its rotation, causing it to freeze. Lunaris has lied to the friendly moon people about Della, Donald and the people of Earth to make them into soldiers.

- Fenton Crackshell-Cabrera's police-chief mother is protective of him and aware of his identity as Gizmoduck. He feels he's not being taken seriously, but it's also clear that his less-serious fighting method is effective.

- Drake Mallard suits up as Darkwing Duck to fight crime, for the first time, with Launchpad's help. He's worried that no one is noticing him, or afraid of him. He dislikes Gizmoduck, and feels he will be a better hero.

- Scrooge suits up as Darkwing Duck and does the pogo jump attack from the Ducktales NES game. He also imitates a William Wallace-ish Scottish ancestor.

- Gyro Gearloose has cloned himself into an army, and they no longer know which one is the original. Several die in this episode.

- Gyro's helpers, "Lil Bulb" and his duplicates, serve as agents and semi-secret communication devices since so many satellites are otherwise down due to the events of this and the previous episode (where Louie briefly became the richest duck in the world).

- Lena, who was Magica De Spell's shadow, starts to use magic as a fighting technique, having now moved past her fear of becoming like Magica (and after seeing Magica depowered). There is now a tight friendship between Lena, Webby, and Violet Sabrewing.

- Gladstone Gander has joined Fethry Duck and his building-sized shrimp Mitzy for some sort of adventure on the high seas. Gladstone's famous luck still holds up. Fethry has been trying to become a deep-sea research scientist (rather than jut a custodian and weirdo).

- In Egypt, Amunet and Faris Djinn defend the Temple of Toth-Ra against the moonvasion.

- It turns out that the vultures who have been running the day to day business of McDuck Enterprises are actually the High Command of F.O.W.L. (The Fiendish Organization for World Larceny), which was more of a Darkwing Duck thing. They have lost faith in Scrooge McDuck after his shenanigans and intend to ruin him and take control of the company. It's all a little bit "The Good Place."

- Darkwing Duck villain Steelbeak is part of FOWL.

- Gandra Dee is also part of FOWL. She was previously an agent of Mark Beaks (looking to steal Gyro's science secrets) and a love interest for Gizmoduck.

- Black Heron is also part of FOWL. She was a spy who fought Scrooge and Beakley in the 60s, getting the recipe to Gummi Berry Juice and fighting them again in the present.

- A mascot of Funso (a Chuck E. Cheese-like destination for kids) turns out to be The Phantom Blot (?) and part of FOWL. The Funso mascot has a history with Magica De Spell, the Beagle Boys and the kids.

- The former world's richest duck (?) John D. Rockerduck has been frozen since the 1800s (?) and is ready to be thawed in the present as part of FOWL's scheme. His henchman Jeeves is also still around.

- Della Duck, who was stranded on the moon for a decade, wants to take her children into hiding rather than fight back, because she's terrified of losing them again. She crashes on a desert island and is stranded, causing her to have a psychotic break as she imagines being on the moon again. The boys talk her out of it, and the NES moon theme is sung.

- Donald, having survived being fired from the moon as a living bullet, has been stranded on a desert island for a month. His only "companion" was a watermelon that - in Donald's mind - had the voice of Mickey Mouse.

- Penumbra is the only one who knows that Lunaris is lying about the Earth in order to get the moon people to invade it. She is trying to fight back against Lunaris and genuinely considers Della a friend in retrospect. She and Donald tried to prevent the Moonvasion.

- Launchpad McQuack becomes smitten with Penumbra.

- Johnny and Randy, hosts of reality TV show "Ottoman Empire," have made up after a family feud, after being paid 100 million dollars by Louie in the previous episode. They are now apparently around and on board for Scrooge's shenanigans in this episode.

- Mercenary ninja Gabby McStabberson has joined Scrooge's forces to fight the moonvasion.

- Librarian Emily Quackfaster also fights the moonvasion and seems genuinely dangerous.

- Manny the immortal headless horse is also around.

- Duckworth, the deceased ghost butler (who often masquerades as a skull-faced demon), feels that the Earth is doomed and goes down to Hell to prepare lodging for all those who are about to die.

- In a home invasion, the moon invaders capture Doofus Drake, his parents and the mini Mark Beaks robot, before wondering if they're the bad guys in this situation. By the end of the episode, the moonvaders seem to have become friendly again. Doofus Drake is a spoiled rich kid who had made his parents into his servants. His parents have used the mini Mark Beaks robot as a "new brother" to shift the balance of power.

- Having run out of good ideas, Scrooge, Launchpad and Beakley become part of one of Flintheart Glomgold's idiotic schemes, which involves sharks in parkas (sharkas) and Launchpad as a human cannonball. After the events of "Glomtales," in which Louie tricked Glomgold and an alliance of villains out of their riches, Glomgold gets Scrooge to dress up as Santa Claus and give Glomgold his company back. This very stupid plan also catches moon commander Lunaris off guard, leading to victory, and for Glomgold to declare he's defeated Scrooge.

- The Greek demigod Storkules, who is in love with Donald Duck, wants to help Duckburg but his father Zeus won't let him. Moon goddess Selene also stays behind. Eventually they do help Duckburg and the Earth.

- Goldie is around, who has been looking for gold as Scrooge's half-villainous romantic interest since the 1800s. (And who was around for one of Louie's schemes not long ago.)

Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:25 am
by Garrett Gilchrist
I haven't kept up with My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic since season 4 or so, but it's come to a close and this is the end of an era. Lauren Faust and the team created something great which influenced a ton of kid's shows going forward.

Time to remember the parody series "Friendship is Witchcraft" by Jenny Nicholson and Griffin Lewis. This one is trending on Tiktok for some reason.

Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:21 pm
by Garrett Gilchrist
Fantasia survived editing the racist stuff out. Dumbo and Peter Pan are trickier. Maybe they could make two versions - one for impressionable children and one for older fans of racist animation. They could even make it more racist just for John K.

I wish animation fans cared half as much about anything else as they do about the availability of old racist cartoons.

Have you ever tried actually watching Song of the South? Yes, it's a minstrel show but it's also a deeply boring film. And anything that romanticizes the "old South" should be viewed with suspicion in the 20th century, let alone the 21st.

I restore old media, from VHS and film and other sources, usually because I admire the people who made it, like Jim Henson and Richard Williams and Vivian Stanshall. Sometimes old media has problematic and stereotypical elements that wouldn't be acceptable today. Just for the record, I don't endorse these elements. I don't endorse every element of everything I restore. Times change, and I'm grateful for that. I think that sometimes there are things about the past we should be in more of a hurry to forget, rather than expose them to a new generation.

In the case of Fantasia, they cut out one kind of character. It's a minor cut and it made the film palatable to new generations after the 1940s. That's actually a good thing!

WB's stuff is worse, even by the standards of the day. The Censored 11 were censored for a reason. There are plenty of WB cartoons which are clean and a handful which are reprehensible in every detail, and not worth resurrecting now.

Cuphead got in a little bit of trouble for reproducing tropes from cartoons from the 30s-50s and trying to just ignore their original racist context, and recontextualize them. It nearly pulls it off, but if you know the censored WB cartoons that's a stain which doesn't come off.

Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:38 pm
by filmfan94
Dumbo would prove especially difficult to re-edit (for the record, I've never found the crows in any way racist) since the crows are pretty vital to the plot.

Re: Animation Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:12 pm
by Garrett Gilchrist
One of them is officially named "Jim Crow" which sums up the minstrel show-ish way the black-coded characters were portrayed at the time.