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Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:25 pm
by Garrett Gilchrist
At 1:15:47. And at the opening and closing.
https://youtu.be/NGuMdGbJlTY

Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:34 pm
by Garrett Gilchrist

Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:56 pm
by filmfan94
So, was that supposed to be some sort of reference footage for the animators? As far as I could tell, Dick and the girl (any idea who she is by the way?) didn't seem to be acting out scenes from the film.

Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:41 pm
by Dennis196492
They're acting out scenes between Prince Bubba and Princess Mee Mee, possibly others involving Yum Yum and Tack/King Nod, I think they're improvising based on certain scenes from the script, but experimenting/changing things up for variety

Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:38 pm
by filmfan94
I see. That would probably explain why I didn't recognize any of the actions made in that footage.

Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:43 am
by Garrett Gilchrist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oP6khgHXEU

[from a Facebook conversation:]

I don't think any of this footage was used, probably due to the chaotic nature of using a child actress, but it's probably Meemee/Bubba improvisations and YumYum/Nod.

Not sure I'd call it "valuable" but it's certainly rare. Remarkable that it exists. It's very silly.

Saved from the garbage like a lot of Thief and the Cobbler stuff that's turned up.

In terms of all deleted (or not deleted) footage and artwork, exactly what survives is unknown. Miramax and Richard Williams have donated their archives for research and so we may find out in the next few years.

Everything was supposed to be lost, but we knew that wasn't the case. A lot was certainly rescued.

Supposedly most of the Nasruddin film got animated in some form.

It is fascinating, and the more you look into it the more you find -- those archives, whatever exists, would show bits and pieces of a very different film, or many very different films.

What this film really needs is for me to go through everything and assemble some sort of official release and archive. I haven't noticed anyone jumping up to let me do that though. Certain gatekeepers have yet to take me seriously, though everyone else does.

[See also: we'd like to do the Raggedy Ann & Andy film.]

Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 3:19 pm
by adventuremaster18
Hey garrett, I was curious if I could try to sync up the recobbled cut footage with the moment in time audio. I'm definitely asking first as I don't want to get a reputation as many others have by using your work without permission, so I wanted to ask first, if not, I understand and won't do it.

Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 9:23 pm
by Garrett Gilchrist
I've seen the Moment in Time version, and it's nothing at all like the Recobbled Cut visually.

Closer to the workprint version I suppose.

Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:47 am
by Garrett Gilchrist

Re: The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Cut Mark 4

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:36 pm
by DaveHolmes