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Post: # 10649Post Garrett Gilchrist
Thu May 14, 2020 4:41 pm

Everyone talks about how Marvel never released New Mutants (2017), but nobody talks about how Marvel never released New Warriors (2017). They were doing a lot of different projects with the same basic premise at the time ... "Experimental projects starring young Mutants but not the famous X-Men ones."

Legion
The Gifted
The New Mutants
The New Warriors
Marvel's Agents of SHIELD (later on with Inhumans/Quake)
Marvel's The Inhumans
Runaways

The 2017 New Warriors pilot involved Squirrel Girl and Tippy-Toe, Mister Immortal, Night Thrasher, Speedball, Microbe, Debrii and Nova. It was picked up by Freeform but nothing ever happened beyond that.

PS: It's interesting how the MCU basically used Squirrel Girl's origin as Spider-Man, where she wants to be Iron Man's sidekick and is held back mainly by how young and inexperienced she is. Appropriate for a character inspired by Spider-Man herself.



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Post: # 10691Post Garrett Gilchrist
Tue May 26, 2020 4:39 pm

Explaining what the "Snyder Cut" is ...

You know how Trump is the worst possible President, so this insane fanbase grew around him because of this, who have a conspiracy theory about how he's a secret genius?

Imagine that, but for the bad Zack Snyder DC superhero movies.


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Post: # 10829Post Garrett Gilchrist
Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:33 pm

Hamilton, the film. Sad how this captured the zeitgeist of the Obama era so perfectly at the time - a zeitgeist which Trump obliterated entirely. Seems like a relic now.

It's still a masterpiece, and bits of these recordings were released at the time - I collected them, and was desperate to see the whole thing in this sort of filmic quality. I'm still excited.

It follows a pretty standard structure, where Hamilton starts as an idealistic youth whose major character flaws don't destroy him until Act Two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Sn-6gPnwM

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Post: # 10856Post Garrett Gilchrist
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:24 pm

Watching Lin-Manuel Miranda's Hamilton, as filmed in 2016 with the iconic original cast. The cast album still sounds better in places but the play is so visual that it's great to see it like this.

Using a modern, diverse cast to play the founding fathers and try to show what's actually great about America (while giving great, complex parts to diverse actors) was Obama-era propaganda and maybe that's exactly what we still need right now.

It's not exactly a secret that the play was about the present as much as it is about the past. The problematic nature of the history it's depicting does make its politics muddled, seeming to want to ignore the inherent contradictions and appeal to everyone, but the play often depicts that complexity, and it starts a conversation about what exactly the United States of America is, or can be.

The play is not about worshipping Hamilton, it's based on the historically-significant writing he left behind (and loosely at that, obviously). It feels almost quaint in the time of Trump because it's everything he doesn't stand for - and that's a good thing. It helps that the play is a masterpiece.

It takes a lot of liberties with history to structure its story (though there's a staggering amount of real historical fact in it).

It fit in very well with the Obama era, with a subtext about how immigrants of any race should be able to make it in America, and about revolution for creating a better world, but also about how politicians sell out, and how men's flaws demolish them, and how these compromises are the original sin of our country.

The original cast are iconic, and I wouldn't have accepted recasting for a film.

To an extent this always seemed to be American propaganda created with the full blessing of the Obama administration, something which seems alarmingly quaint now with all we've lost under Trump.

With that said, it's still an extremely complex and nuanced piece of work that would be the highlight of any writer or performer's career, and certainly the defining musical of its time.

It also feels like a moment which came and went, and I've never been interested in the different casts and the supplementary material that followed. I'm glad that they filmed that moment when it was happening.

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Post: # 10864Post Garrett Gilchrist
Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:42 pm

Nearly all of the parodies and hot takes about Hamilton that I see on Twitter are clearly from people who have only listened to one song (something like "My Shot") and maybe skimmed a couple others.

Folks, this show utilizes a bunch of different musical styles, and we can tell when you don't know that.

We can tell when you haven't heard "Wait For It," "Satisfied," "Dear Theodosia," "History Has Its Eyes On You," "It's Quiet Uptown," etc.

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Post: # 10890Post Garrett Gilchrist
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:08 am

John Boyega says he has no interest in returning to Star Wars. Says he's "moved on."

There needs to be a word for this, where they hire people of color and women for these normally white male-dominated roles, and then the white male directors do absolutely fuck nothing with them. Chris Chibnalling?

Each film sets Finn up with a love interest and possible force powers and as the leader of a possible Stormtrooper rebellion, and then doesn't do anything with it and resets everything for the next film.

The Last Jedi is the only good one, but the film that followed ignores and attacks everything it was trying to do, making both films pointless ....


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