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Re: TV Thread

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:41 pm

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Re: TV Thread

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:32 pm

The Japanese show that Power Rangers borrowed from ...

http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/super-sen ... 0803664300

The success of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers in America meant that new footage was shot in Japan to extend the series, as the American team ran out of appropriate footage from the 1992-1993 episodes of Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger.

https://www.grnrngr.com/zyu1.5/
https://www.grnrngr.com/zyu2/
https://www.grnrngr.com/zyu2/essay

http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylogeny/101.htm

Some footage here from the 1986 Power Rangers pilot "Bio-Man."
https://youtu.be/Mcn5Iemz0SU

https://youtu.be/M5TcPWOuJR4?t=86

The Power Rangers ... or rather Zyurangers, appear in this Japanese NES (Famicom) game. The bosses are all Rita/Bandora's usual gang from episode 1 plus Scorpina/Lami. Dinozords are present, and minigames include Green with Dragonzord / Caesar. Both themes are correct.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY6091gZsyY
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Re: TV Thread

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Re: TV Thread

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:52 am

The Japanese version of Power Rangers' Rita Repulsa (Witch Bandora of Zyuranger) is introduced by killing a couple of astronauts and taking two kids hostage. Later she straight-up kills the "evil" Green Ranger the minute he turns on her, which kills him permanently twenty episodes later, and you just have to respect that.

Also love these doofy Guardian Beasts plushies that show up in a few episodes.

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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25628273
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https://youtu.be/e-azJwEDKpE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JMgCeQ_2yk
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In the Japanese show they're real dinosaurs, not just robots (think of how the Rangers transform), so they can get away with stuff like this.

Tinier versions were also made:
http://tn.smilevideo.jp/smile?i=22606919.L
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22606919

This play-doh version of Rita/Bandora's clay monster making machine (Nendora), also extremely good. Includes plastic versions of Red Ranger and Megazord Daizyujin. Clay molds for the Skeleton (Bones) and Titan, Grifforzer/Goldar, some putties and King Sphinx.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cRa-bwf_S_0/ ... C06150.JPG
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1S9QRhzjj1M/ ... C06055.JPG


It shattered when this Youtuber tried to use it, sadly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9B63nXBafA
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Re: TV Thread

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:31 pm

My main takeaway from Zyuranger (Japanese Power Rangers equivalent) is how much more interesting Witch Bandora is (vs "Rita Repulsa"). The US editing did her a disservice. They did reshoots and made every scene with her the same, partly due to worries about lip sync. (Many US Rita scenes give the important lines to a reshot Goldar/Grifforzer, who starts out silent in the original, before joining his wife Scorpina/Lami.)

You sometimes see Bandora as a meme on social media, and I can see why.

She sings. She jokes. She raps. She kills people. She flies around on a bicycle antagonizing children. She breathes fire and shoots lightning. She has a tragic backstory as a queen who sold her soul to Satan for revenge after her son's death, and her attempts to reconnect with him (when it's already too late) are genuinely sad. Machiko Soga plays the hell out of all of it.

In the finale, she mourns her son (killed by the Rangers!), loses her powers because of it, and is sealed into an urn with her sidekicks to float around space for eternity. Inside, she happily raps about her hatred for children, before making an exception for Grifforzer and Lami's baby, ending on a kind of ambiguously hopeful note. (She also promises to return and destroy the Rangers, who have already retired and ascended to heaven.)

(Side note that I watched what seems to be a better translation than Shout Factory's streaming version.)

This is a kid's show, but it's also about young children in peril pretty much constantly, to be saved by the five legendary warriors from the dawn of time, given powers by their respective dinosaur gods, who appear as the mechanical dinosaurs but are sentient. It's more of a fantasy about magic and legends, although visually the same as other Sentai series. It's easier to take seriously than the US version, which grafted a teen sitcom onto the show and had a bit of a split personality with dopey dubbing.

I didn't like the US Power Rangers growing up but watched enough of it for nostalgia. Watching about 1/4 of the Japanese series was much more interesting, although a lot of that interest was just from comparing the two very carefully, which I did.

http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/super-sen ... 07eff40b00

Certain episodes of the US series just make me feel bad for David Yost. But that's another discussion entirely.

(I happened upon an early episode where Pink and Blue "switch brains" and the entire thing seems like a setup to bully David Yost for being gay and the "nerd character." Both Amy Jo and David play into stereotypes which somehow make fun of David from both sides. Although to her credit, when restored to normal, Amy Jo plays it like "hooray, I'm a moron again!"

There's also the matter of when David Yost finally got sick of the bullying and left the show, during the Zeo series where he was playing a mentor type, they do a few episodes without him (also true when Red/Yellow/Black left in MMPR), then have him played by an old man for his last two epiodes, and badly dub some old footage so he leaves the show. Very strange and awkward.)

In general the US acting is very bad and the stakes are always at sort of sitcom level so it can't really accomplish the comic book / anime feel of the original.

The character of Zordon is bizarre to me because the US show already had the problem of having a lot of Japanese characters with either bad lip sync (Rita) or no lip sync at all. So why would they create a new character, who's just a guy's head, which would be easy to film, and give him no lip sync? They weren't forced to do that by the Japanese version. They got too used to dubbing the whole thing, and created additional characters with no lip sync - Alpha, Lord Zedd, and so on. Before eventually casting new actresses as their concept of Rita Repulsa.

Pilot Zordon has full lip sync and is creepy as hell.

They also switched to Dairanger footage - not for the Rangers but for the dinosaur Zords - too early, when they still had Japanese-shot footage to work with. They threw out a lot of stuff with the original Megazord and Putties and just cut around it. You'd think they could have found a reason, or set those episodes earlier.

They used only the white Ranger from Dairanger and didn't actually use any of the new Japanese Ranger teams until Zeo, as a cost cutting measure ....

There are about six episodes in season 2 where Red, Yellow and Black are played by doubles, including voice doubles and reusing old footage, as the actors left the show, maybe over money issues. Thuy Trang never came back. There are a couple more episodes with voice doubles and one with only Tommy/Green, basically. The editing of the series is odd at this point in general.

In episode 224, they leave in, briefly and accidentally, a shot that's just writing saying "Zedd makes flower guy appear."

http://sirstack.db-destiny.net/morphylo ... EII007.JPG

One big issue is that the US stuff is always on video rather than film so it sticks out even more than it would otherwise. And they don't make much effort to use the Japanese plotlines (with doubles etc) so it stands out when they do ... like in episode "Big Sisters." The Japanese stuff already sort of looks like it's from the 70s by American standards ... but in its own context it really works.
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Re: TV Thread

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:11 pm

When Super Sentai turned 35, they did this - an army of Rangers from different series. From Gokaiger - the US version was Power Rangers Super Mega Force.
https://youtu.be/vr6O3ch50WY?t=168

At timecode 12:50 - The Pink Ranger fighting as a pink Chun-Li sums up the early 90s.
It occurs to me that any Street Fighter movie should have just been shot for Japanese television.
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Re: TV Thread

Postby SirQuacky » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:38 pm

Here's a link to a re-edit of the ending to Red Dwarf Vi: Out Of Time I did awhile back but never posted, I call it the Skip-To-Series-X Edit: https://youtu.be/2Ogy5ZtmA0g
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Re: TV Thread

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:41 am

Interesting! -- it's been too long. Like everyone else I wasn't as big a fan of series 7-9 of the Dwarf but as with a lot of franchises, you take the lesser stuff along with the glory days. It's nice to see that complete ending presented, as the aired ending is a disaster - although one which maybe kept the show on the air. The ending to series 8 was also a disaster for similar reasons, but didn't.


I had a similar reaction to GLOW season two as I did to season one.

There is so much marvelously subtle character work, especially from Alison Brie and Betty Gilpin but also extending to much of the cast, that the show often feels like a very interesting drama, perched atop a more lightweight and silly comedy. Which fits the show's premise. The characters are performing an inherently ridiculous show but we see them as people in more detail than the cartoon characters they play as.

It's a relief that the characters are allowed to be flawed. It's common that we see that for male leads but it's rarer to see characters like Ruth and Debbie, who are complete disasters who screw everything up at least half the time.

So both seasons go a little off the rails for me toward the end, as they've set up a lot of character conflicts that resolve themselves in a more lighthearted manner than we're used to, as if a sitcom like The Office turned into a drama for half its runtime but eventually came back to its roots.

There's nothing wrong with that, and I don't think the series could support the weight if it went much darker than it does. It's a relief that the series end on a lighter note, and a darker version of Marc Maron's Sam Sylvia would be hard to take. For the most part this series finds his likeable side, somehow.

The series settles into darker themes, often at the end of episodes to keep us watching, but never lingers for long, which works because a darker version of Ruth or Debbie (or so on) might not work either. Storylines about AIDS and cocaine and Sam reconnecting with his daughter mix with sketch comedy. Scenes inspired by The Godfather sit alongside scenes inspired by The Muppets Take Manhattan, and a parody of "We Are the World."

It's nice to see more development for characters like Kia Stevens' Tammé Dawson (Welfare Queen) and Chris Lowell's Bash Howard. It leaves you wanting more, which means they don't overstay their welcome either.

It's very sitcom-like how about half the GLOW cast are allowed to be about as two dimensional as the characters they play, but likeably so. You feel at first that this is to paper over the lesser actors in the group (many chosen for their real wrestling skills), but they mostly acquit themselves well for the screen time they're given.

The series takes a chance this time by presenting one episode as a complete episode of GLOW, and this is a strange one. There's always been silliness bubbling underneath the series premise but this episode takes the opportunity to go entirely silly. It's hard, in 2018, to create a show which genuinely feels like the 1980s. The show normally manages to feel a little like an 80s feature film, but this experiment feels very little like actual 80s television. It's set up that in their final episodes, Sam lets Ruth and the girls do more of what they want with the show. It plays out as mostly a sketch comedy, when in every other episode we've seen them shoot wrestling matches rather than skits. It all feels more like a 2018 webseries, and like something a straight sitcom would do. There's some amusing stuff, and more screentime for the supporting players. We already see the "wrestling" part of the show in every other episode so I get why they tried something different, even if it undermines the premise of the show a little. And it's a good excuse to show the show's silly side more blatantly.

As a whole the season feels like a good 80s film, and I was continually interested in knowing more about all of these characters.
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Re: TV Thread

Postby Garrett Gilchrist » Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:36 pm

Sunny's Ronald MacDonald on losing weight and getting in shape:

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I always wonder if he shortened his lifespan by doing all that. It's wild.
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